Marc got a good say, speaking a minute more than Jon in the Part 1 that aired on TV. So his complaints near the end about being talked over are baseless. (I suppose it's easy to get disoriented and feel cheated about time in a debate like this.)
Overall I certainly side with Jon, but Marc sheds some light on these issues in a way that the usual right-neocon histrionics obviously don't. It's worth watching in full.
Acting CISA chief sought ouster of agency’s chief information officer
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Other senior political appointees at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
Security Agency were not happy about the move — and they ultimately helped
undo it.
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